[lsst-dm-stack-users] A few Lessons Learned

Scott Dodelson dodelson at fnal.gov
Sat Nov 3 17:08:17 PDT 2012


Since this is under discussion, here are some more logs from users with a range of experience [i.e., the middle user has little!]



On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Kian-Tat Lim wrote:

> Dave,
>
>> 1) There really needs to be a "DM For Dummies" document.
>
>        Agreed, although it's not clear that we're at the stage that we
> want to or can support true "Dummies".
>
>>   a) Code:  The sequence for updating a package, and the subsequent
>>        failure of another package due to new needs in the updated
>>        package, is pretty frustrating.
>
>        We need to better define releases of the code that work together
> and update them faster.  The latest v6_1 release should help a bit, as
> should the reappearance of lsstactive, so that there's a one-step way to
> get all needed packages.
>
>        eups distrib install -t v6_1 lsstactive
>
>> 2) When Paul managed to drag me to the finish line, I was greeted by
>>   astoundingly poor performance.  Not only did I not really know what
>>   I could or should do, but the simple test case took 2 hours to find
>>   stars in a single image.  Paul managed to trace this to the default
>>   for "scons" is for no optimization.  When rerun with "scons opt=3",
>>   the performance went from 2 hours to 2 minutes.  It would have been
>>   really nice for the defaults to be reasonable, or at least for the
>>   cookbook to tell me what to type to get useful results.
>
>        If you're not building from git clones but instead just
> installing already-released packages, which is now possible, this should
> not be a problem.
>
>> 3) My "success" is that I can run the DECam package on my own machine
>>   using the single instruction that Paul told me about.  I have literally
>>   no idea what other things I can (or should be able to) do with the
>>   DM Stack.  My suggestion to Mario is (still) to have some sort of
>>   AAS discussion of "why" one should spend the time and energy to use
>>   the DM Stack.
>
>        An overview of the available pipe_tasks would be good to have,
> even before we get into how easy/hard it is to build your own.
>
> --
> Kian-Tat Lim, LSST Data Management, ktl at slac.stanford.edu
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